[转帖]民富不等于国强

zjz603603 · 发表于 2006-11-25 11:05:00

这是浙大“四大名嘴”有名的“愤青”教授，以前在浙江图书馆做的演讲的全文，可能好多同学已经看过，但我觉得讲真的很不错，很给人启发，所以传上来给大家分享。

andrew · 发表于 2006-11-25 11:06:00

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zjz603603 · 发表于 2006-11-25 11:13:00

<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">作为一个学者，我不是来卖弄嘴皮子的。借助这个讲坛，我认为各行各业对知识的接受是潜移默化，循序渐近的过程。下面从自然科学的角度来谈谈我的一些观点，我提出几个重大问题：<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">第一，我国搞了几十年的科学研究与攻关，在几十个工业门类中，到底有哪几个是属于中国的民族工业或者可以称为自己的工业的？到底有哪几项科研在国际上是数一数二的？中国现在到底需要什么？我经常出国，每出一次国，灵魂就受到一次洗礼，就巴不得在回来的第二天就去中小学讲。为什么？就是感到紧迫的压力和羞愧，特别是去了日本和韩国，这两个同属于东方国家去了之后，感触更多下面这四个方面，是近５年吹得最厉害的。<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">先说纳米，这也是从美国人开始的。我是一个教授，在浙大当老师，浙大的<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">求是<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; 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mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">建世界第一流大学<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，教育部跨世纪发展计划中定的<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">10<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">所大学，现在已选定了９所，第<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">10<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">所还未选出。在中国这个发展中国家，你能建<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">10<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">所世界一流大学，那美国有多少所？日本有多少所？现在的实际状况是：世界上前<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">200<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">所大学，中国一所都排不进！在亚洲能排出几所？我到国外去看了以后，感到要将浙大建成世界一流大学就像共产主义理想，我们永远要努力！但是，我们不应该去追求这样虚幻的目标，去呼这样的口号，我们的差距还很大。<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">现在的几个行业也是前几年套着中国科技产业目标走得几个方向。像纳米，它只不过是一个尺度概念。各种尺度的材料都有各自的用，比如，为什么要把泥土拿来做成砖，砖的尺度比沙泥要大得多，因为小的沙粒没有强度。我们怎么能把丰富多彩的物质世界只说成是一个纳米呢？所以，都没有注意是谁提出的这个口号的，其实我们又中了美国人的圈套！这与军备竞赛是一样的。超导中国科学院在搞；基因上海在搞；纳米全国在搞，连工厂技术员也在搞。<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">刚才<personname wst="on" productid="何祚庥">何祚庥</personname>先生讲的悬浮列车，不要以为上海的高楼大厦与东京、大阪一样，中国就现代化了。修一个房子、修一座桥非常容易，但你要看看国民素质到了一个什么样的阶段。日本大楼里走出来的人都是受过高等教育的；而我们上海的大厦里走出来的人却都是些腰缠万贯的文盲！怎么能说国家已经现代化了？浙江杭州搞的世贸会挺漂亮，但你可以去西溪河看看，如果西溪河能出现小鸟、天鹅，杭州就现代化了，这不是一个穿一件衣服的问题。我们最需要的是什么？我们不要用这些东西来摆样子！我们应该关注我国的哪几个方面？<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; 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zjz603603 · 发表于 2006-11-25 11:14:00

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FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">填补国内外空白<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">、<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">国际先进水平<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，写论文则是<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">国际领先水平的研究成果<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">、<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">首次科学发现<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">等等，这都是目前非常严重的问题！作为一个大学教授，我深深地为此担忧！这不是我们的责任，是我们的领导无知，是他们倡导了这个主流。我知道在座的处长或老总日子很难过，因为你们不写这样的报表，就拿不到钱，项目就得不到批准。教授也同样如此，天天写报告，而不是在实验室静下心来好好搞研，这是很严重的！<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">科学家说，纳米无所不能，这一说，大家就都去搞纳米了；老板说：纳米商机无限，再不上就没有机会了，因此，宁波想干，诸暨想干，天台也想干，大家都来搞纳米。科学家知道纳米不稳定，它做成材料就聚集在一起，但产业家并不知道这一点。有人说，纳米这么好，我们都变成纳米人多好，但高的篮球谁打？篮框得降低了。纳米人的作用可否用在脑血栓治疗上，不用吃药，脑袋上挖个小孔让纳米人钻进去清理一下就行了。这些东西可能只有我在说不好。纳米在最近的一二个月里在浙江炒得很厉害，什么<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">纳米冰箱能防霉<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，我就不明白：一个是生物学与卫生学的概念、一个是材料尺寸的纳米怎么会防霉？所以，要千万注意，无知的人骗起人来不得了，因为他胆子大，什么都敢说，所以说：<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">无知才无理<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，我们懂一点的就不敢随便讲，这是误导！现在，让科学界的人感到很困惑：许多与纳米研究无关，不具备纳米科研的单位都在上纳米项目，开设了许多新的战场。作为商界的人士，这个投入是风险投入，所得到的绝对回报是非常危险的。越是高科技的东西，越不要指望它的市场回报，这个概念是我今天提出的。新闻界的人在干什么？新闻界的同志喜欢写一些新东西。我知道，没有新东西写起来不精彩。误导与新闻界有关，新闻界听到一点就是一个片，如此描述宣传以致于浙江的报纸整版整版地写纳米。我特别地告诫大家，这是把整个一个学科的概念搞得非常庸俗！<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">下面我谈谈科技问题。我们整个国家民族工业的基础极其脆弱，这几年我在日本商店购物，日本的袜子、手巾、低档毛衣、低档服装全都是中国产的，这是否感到光荣？其实，我们所谓的外资合营企业，所引进的东西，真正有科技的含量极少，这就是我们的天真，就是我们领导的天真！比如，东京这么大的城市，全部的电视频道就只有６个，杭州有多少个？这是很清楚的。拿什么钱吃什么饭，我们现在是在吃国家的饭，所以，开了这么多频道不怕赔也不怕赚，而日本就不能这样。<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">我在日本１０天，没有看到一条有关中国的消息，这也是中国人的天真<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">.<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">广岛亚运会在日本召开时，有哪一个中国人得金牌的镜头能在日本的电视上看得到？日本人喜欢围棋，但他不知道聂卫平是谁。我国现在是需要国际化，但国际化了以后连自己的祖宗是谁都不知道了，连自己的民族文化什么都不知道了，所以我要说，改革开放２０年，我们到底在经济上，科技上得到了什么？好的是有的，但作为一个科学家，我要深思：我们在高科技上得到了什么？日本、韩国、美国基本都是把国内不能生产的、低价的东西转移到第叁世界国来生产。你并没有得到高科技，你以为他会给你高科技吗？不会的！比如汽车，我们联营了这么多家，但日本的汽车技术，比如丰田，都是第二代、第叁代之前的，他不会给你先进的！为什么现在柯尼卡、柯达、富士在中国<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; 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zjz603603 · 发表于 2006-11-25 11:15:00

<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">为什么我们的大学排不进前<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">200<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">名？因为规定要有<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">800<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">篇ＦＣＡ的论文才能进入前<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">200<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">名。为什么浙好不容易搞了<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">10<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">年的科研却没有钱？教授的论文写得少了，平均一个教授没有一篇，像我这样一年能写５<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">.<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">６篇的很少。为什么？中<personname wst="on" productid="国的">国的</personname>教授一个月的工资平均只有<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">1500<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">元，相当于<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">170<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">美元；美<personname wst="on" productid="国的">国的</personname>教授拿多少工资？他的一篇文章值多少钱？可见中<personname wst="on" productid="国">国</personname>教授便宜了！美<personname wst="on" productid="国">国</personname>教授成本高！为什么会是这样？所以，我非常担心这样下去，再过５年、<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">10<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">年，你到底还有些什么东西？这样恶性循环后，我们基本上没有自己的工业了！我不赞成<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">造船不如买船，买船不如租船<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，过若干年再看看，将会是什么样子？<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">下面谈谈我个人的观点<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">第一，我们国家的现实和发展就是这样：凡是依赖不成的，我们自己都能搞得像模像样，比如二弹一星；凡是能够引进的，就都搞不成。为什么？企业的科技人员辛辛苦苦地搞一个技术革新，只要区里的计委领导、省里的计经委领导哪一天带着人到美国去考察一下，买来几个电器产品，跟他们签个协议，然后再到美国去培训<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">10<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">天，引进一条线，马上就可以把你这个国营企业打跨，这就是现实！现在很多合资企业就这样，卖点东西，而没有去考虑这些深层次的东西。殊不知这就是社会的恶性循环！关于电信的事，我只跟电信部门这样说：这点电话费我付得起！但是，你们想没有，你们从自己的这个角度赚了消费者的钱，但消费者里面有大夫，你电信的就不生病吗？你若进医院，他给你卖高价药行吗？我开玩笑：<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">你别看我是个穷教授，赚不了钱。我今天回去就去查名单，看我这个学院、我这个系的学生有多少你们电信部门的子女，到了下个学期全部不及格！若要及格，每分交<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">5000<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">元钱。<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">但我决不会这么做！若这样做，这个世界就乱了。作为社会成员，一定要有这样的思想：大家是互相依存的，我们这个国家也同样。但是很多人只考虑自己，只要自己赚钱而不管别人怎样，若那样的话，天就可能得到报应。这是我的一个观点。<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">下面这几个问题是最重要的问题：中国需要什么样的教育？中国需要什么样的人才？中国需要什么样的科技？中国需要什么样的产业<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">?<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">教育、学习是为了什么？<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">最近，幼儿园、小学、中学、大学以及饭店、各个厂矿企业等单位都邀请我去演讲，这是我应该为社会做的，是我的本份，加上我身兼数职：院长、系主任，所长等，他们开口就要找博士。<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">其实，这需要共同语言受教育的层次、人格的素质，这才是最重要的！现在很多人对学生的教育没有注重这个方面。中小学在搞素质教育，什么叫素质？英语、计算机、钢琴都会一点儿能算是素质吗？我住的那层楼的孩子都在弹钢琴，我就听到二楼的一个男孩子在弹《致爱丽丝》时，边弹边哭、边骂他妈妈。爸爸妈妈都是音盲，却一定要把孩子培养成音乐家。这么好的太阳，让孩子坐在屋里，他能受得了吗？这是何必呢？幼儿园３岁开始学英语，我这个观点不知你们是否赞同，我在学校讲课时，学生们听了觉得我所说的正符合了他们的心意。我认为：语言、计算机就是工具。中国的外语教授讲英语还不如美国卖菜的农民！怎么看待这个问题？日本博士、德<personname wst="on" productid="国">国</personname>教授说不出英语的多得是！我们怎么能说一个人不会说英语就是文盲呢？语言就是一个工具！你没有那个环境，他怎么能讲这个语言呢？比如，我３５岁开始学日语，我现在的日语是顶呱呱的。但是，我在国内进修一年，派日本教授来教我，可我就是学不好，非常紧张。因为年龄较大了，学得我白天的语法都错了，晚上做梦全讲日语，且这时讲的语法都是对的！到了日本后，我是在实验室工作，而打工的人２个月学的日语就比我学得溜，这主要就是因为没有环境。所以说，如果我是教育部长，我要改革二件事：

刹那公子 · 发表于 2006-11-25 11:19:00

不知道教授是怎么样被胁迫去的那些政府官员是怎么样被拉去吃饭的

zjz603603 · 发表于 2006-11-25 11:20:00

<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">后，男同学就得写检查，家长也要跟着写检查。我第一次写时很难受，怎么能做这种事呢？后来就习惯了。到了星期五就问儿子：<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">这个星期要不要写？<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">反正脸皮也厚了，写就写吧。问题是，实际上他只违反了一次纪律就同时被６个女孩子看见了，这也算６次！但是，我并不为我儿子担心，我认为：他受这点挫折也好、压抑也好，对他一生的成长有好处；而我恰恰担心的是那６个女同学，以后怎么能够经历得打击和挫折！这样的教育是很令人深思的。所以，我作为一个博士生导师<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">,<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">我从来是看人不看学历的，学历不等于能力。你们现在的招聘动不动就要高学历，我就是要批判这样做。我提出一个命名，叫<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">消费学历<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"──<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">就是滥用学历。现在提拔干部也同样，不看他的身体，到了<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">60<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">岁，有些身体特别棒且有能力的人也要让他退休；而有的人叁、四十岁得了肝炎，还得让他干，这就是<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">一刀切<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">。招聘时也总是看学历。<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">学历是指一个人读书还可以，并不能代表他能够当你的经营人员、开发人员。我们有很多同学成绩好，却什么都做不了。在我们大学像我这种程度的人，招博士生是从来不看成绩的，成绩算什么！现在我从事的这个领域在中国有叁个杰出的人才，当初在读研究生时都补考过，而成绩考得好的几个人却都跑到美国去卖中药了，这说明了什么问题？作老板的可不能这样啊！现在浙大有规定，有博士点的，留校就必须<personname wst="on" productid="全部留">全部留</personname>博士生而不准留硕士生，这样，仪器就没有人去操作。人才的梯队一定要合理，而不要认为教授就是万能的、博士就是万能的。<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">中国的教体系就是让每一个老百姓都充满希望和理想，教育孩子们要树立远大的理想。实际上，人的能力是不一样的，扫地能扫好，也应该受到尊重；打扫厕所能打扫干净，也应该受到尊重，不能动不动就要高学历。我要提醒的是：在国外可不是这样，反之，美国、日本的博士就很难找到工作，为什么？因为老板心疼钱，招了博士要给他高工资，而他能做什么用呢？这是个具体问题。我不知道现在的组织部长、人事处长在干什么，真的是在<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">选女婿<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">吗？找这么高学历的人干什么呢？现在，中国的大学提出要培养高层次的人才，我说这话错了，中国现在教育特点应该是让全民得到教育，而不是去培养少数的专门人才。上次全国的化学奥林匹克竞赛在杭州举行，是浙大主办的，学校说来了这么多高校的人挖人才，浙大也要派人去挖，于是派我去了。我去讲了话，我毫不客气地说：进这扇门，我的心情是又高兴又沉重。你们把孩子们搞坏了！为什么？我国搞奥林匹克竞赛<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">──<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">中小学叫奥赛班是举国体制，就是为了得到世界上的一个荣誉！而在美国、日本、西欧国家就只有一个学校，叫<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">

lay-again"<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">就是搞着玩的。难道有一个学生得了奥林匹克的冠军，就说明中国的教育好吗？不是，它不能代表我国的真实情况。在那些非重点学校里，有多少孩子在外面赌博、打游戏机！这就是我国教育的一种误区。<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">我指出：如果作为一个教授来做这样的事，在座的人都感到心痛！作为父母，我们绝不能这样宠爱自己的孩子，把这些孩子当宝贝一样。化学的奥林匹克竞赛，清华、北大的教授来了一大堆，我们今天是在做一件害孩子的事！我的话讲完后，主诗人要下面哪个大学的教授接着讲，他们都不敢上台讲了。请扪心自问：我们这样做对吗？奥林匹克竞赛的结果在浙大的一个现象是：在中学学得好的、保送的，到了大学叁年级成绩都降下去了，孩子这么小，怎么能分等级呢？其实，他们根本就是在同一个起跑线上的，成长的路程还长得很，后天的努力才是最重要的。所以，我始终对孩子、对学生都是鼓励的。<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">     <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">我们系里有一个女同学，我看到她一天到晚没有笑脸，就是为了得到那个高分数、为了得到高额的奖学金，我感到很痛心！我说：你这是在用青春买荣誉、买光环，你今后的心灵

zjz603603 · 发表于 2006-11-25 11:24:00

文章太长了，贴上来老是出错，只能传了三段。

渡边君 · 发表于 2006-11-25 12:31:00

太长了，太多了。。不想看了

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